(CNN) -- Reporter Francis Scarcella walked into the Northumberland County Prison in Sunbury, Pennsylvania, with plenty of questions for the woman accused along with her husband of luring a man with a Craigslist ad, then killing him.
He walked out with a bombshell of
a story that's sent police and the press alike scrambling for answers.
Miranda Barbour told Scarcella, a
reporter for the Daily Item newspaper in Sunbury, that she'd killed before. And
not just once or twice.
"She said, she has, you know,
done this before," Scarcella told CNN affiliate WNEP of his Friday interview with the
19-year-old murder suspect. "And I said, 'What's the actual number?'"
"And she said, 'Under a
hundred,'" Scarcella told the station. Barbour said she had stopped counting at
22 killings, according to Scarcella's story in the Daily Item.
"She kind of floored me," Scarcella told CNN affiliate WBRE.
Barbour told the Daily Item that
the killings occurred over the past six years in Alaska, Texas, North Carolina
and California. That's sent investigators in those states back to their
cold-case files, but it's also raising questions among people who study serial
killers.
"Anything is possible, and of
course it's conceivable that she's a serial killer," Northeastern University
criminologist Jack Levin told CNN. But he said few women are serial killers, and
those few are typically older and don't use knives, as Barbour is accused of
doing in the Pennsylvania case.
Authorities haven't yet
corroborated any of Barbour's claims, including statements that she was involved
in Satanism. Her alleged confession has raised questions among attorneys,
missing persons experts and even a representative of the Church of Satan, the
nation's largest satanic body.
"Thorough investigation will
likely demonstrate that this cult story is fiction," said Peter Gilmore, the New
York-based head of the Church of Satan.
In Alaska, state police are
looking into the claims and will pursue "any leads that may present themselves,"
Department of Public Safety spokeswoman Megan Peters told CNN. And Monica
Caison, the founder of a missing persons center in North Carolina, said her
phone started ringing Sunday night with questions from families whose loved ones
haven't turned up in years.
"It sends everybody into a panic
mode -- a hopeful panic mode," Caison said. "They want to be one of those, but
they don't want to be one of those. They want their nightmare to end."
2013
killing
In the one case in which
authorities say they have pinned down Barbour's involvement, she and her
husband, Elytte Barbour, 22, are accused of killing 42-year-old Troy LaFerrara,
who police say responded to a "companionship" ad placed by Miranda Barbour on
Craigslist.
The couple just wanted to kill
someone together, police said. They had been married for only three weeks at the
time of the slaying, and had moved from North Carolina to Pennsylvania after
tying the knot.
Police say Elytte Barbour
strangled LaFerrara in the front seat of her red Honda CR-V while Miranda
Barbour stabbed him at least 20 times in November 2013. LaFerrara's body was
found the next day in the backyard of a home in Sunbury, a small city about 100
miles northwest of Philadelphia. The last number dialed on his cell phone led
police to the Barbours, according to authorities.
Barbour claimed she began
killing when she was 13 and involved in a satanic cult, Scarcella reported.
"I can pinpoint on a map where
you can find them," he quoted her as saying of the bodies. But she said
LaFerrara's killing was the Barbours' first as a couple.
Elytte Barbour told police at
the time of his arrest that he and his wife had tried to kill others, but the
plans didn't work out.
Both Barbours face several
charges in LaFerrara's death, including murder. Despite Miranda Barbour's
statements to Scarcella, both have pleaded not guilty.
Barbour's attorney, public
defender Edward Greco, told CNN he didn't know she was planning to give the
interview. He declined to comment on her claims.
But Levin said the way LaFerra's
body was left in someone's yard isn't typical of serial killers.
"If you're a prolific serial
killer, you're going to go out of your way to dump the body in a desolate area
off a highway so that people don't find the evidence," he said.
Claims raise
doubts
Sunbury Police Chief Steve
Mazzeo told CNN that investigators have been in contact with the FBI and law
enforcement in some of the states where Barbour has lived. The father of
Barbour's 1-year-old child is dead, and Sunbury police have said that is part of
their investigation.
"We investigate all leads just
because that's the proper protocol to follow through," Mazzeo said.
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Authorities also are looking
closely at Barbour's claims that she was involved in Satanism, according to
another law enforcement source close to the investigation. But Gilmore, of the
Church of Satan, said his church has a "law and order philosophy" that does not
condone killing. He said the church has had no contact with Miranda Barbour or
her husband.
Caison, the founder of the
Wilmington-based Community United Effort Center for Missing Persons, has worked
with murderers before in hopes of bringing closure to people whose loved ones
haven't been seen in years. In 2009, her organization helped find the body of
Alice Donovan, who was abducted and murdered seven years earlier, after
Donovan's convicted killer wrote to tell Caison where the remains could be
found.
"Anytime anything like this
happens, we start getting e-mails and phone calls. I started getting texts last
night," Caison said. But she said Barbour will have to be questioned extensively
by investigators before those claims can be put to the test.
"You can't just say you've
killed 22 people between this region and that region," Caison said. "You've got
to give a town or something that only police or an organization like us would
know." Without details like the gender, age or race of a victim, "We don't even
know where to start," she said.
And like Levin, she cast doubt
on Barbour's claims.
"That's a lot of people to kill
in such a short time, and being so young and never making a mistake, I'm hard
pressed to believe that amount," she said. And for the families she works with,
"You don't want to build any false hope."
Getting the
interview
Scarcella told WNEP he got the
interview after Barbour sent him a letter saying she wanted to talk.
Scarcella told CNN on Sunday
that he was not allowed to bring a notepad or any other recording device into
the interview. He said police allowed him to listen to the interview after it
was conducted.
In his interview with WNEP,
Scarcella described Barbour as "very meek, very mild" with a "very low
voice."
"She never hesitated once," he
told the station. "She never gave the impression of it was a rehearsal."
Scarcella said he eventually
asked if she had any remorse.
"And she said, 'None,'"
Scarcella told WNEP.
But that's not what Scarcella
said he found most surprising.
That would be, he said, "the
fact that she said that if she got out she would do it again."
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